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| 23 Jan 2008 01:25 PM |
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oks, i got the ultimate 32bit, ultimate cause i figure im getting what i pay for, sadly mistaken, now i read the home premium is a much more stable OS, very few crashes and errors compared w/ultimate
Looking for any help whatsoever, i dont wanna go back to XP cause i like dx10 and its awesomeness but i feel as though i have no choice, i guess what i really need is the fuckin service pack, but since windows wont release any legit info on the whereabouts of that im hopeless, ive seen the equiv of a beta SP01 for vista but im not takin my chances w/that, anyone w/news of vista service pack let me know whats up, and i'll do the same |
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«ÐoлTurismon
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| 23 Jan 2008 01:53 PM |
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ROTFLMAO where did you read that Home is more stable than Ultimate? They are practically the same exact thing other than one can join a domain and one can't. I don't know what kind of crashes your talking about but I use ultimate on my home gaming desktop and haven't had any issues at all. I am running the SP1 Relase Canadate thou and it works quite well actually. I never really had any real crashes prior to SP1, but SP1 has improved hangs etc. Most of the people's issues with Vista are drivers and driver setup, not the actual OS. But I guess thats what you get when you put the weight of stability on the manufacturers. |
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«ÐoлCheesieCharlie
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| 23 Jan 2008 01:56 PM |
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so... this thread was started while I wasnt at my computer but i received an email about the thread that global started bcuz i subscribed to it? |
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«ÐoлTurismon
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| 23 Jan 2008 01:58 PM |
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you are probably subscribed to the forum. So you will get all posts and reply's emailed. |
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«ÐoлGlobalReach
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| 23 Jan 2008 04:36 PM |
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i udated as many drivers as possible, still havent flashed my bios, i'll prolly bother one of u guys in vent ina little while here, but i'll get a lot of ie7 has stopped working and other programs that tie into ie will make my comp go dead, not blue screen and no error box, just half the screen dies and then i have to reboot, i've been thinkg about picking up the sp1rc and if u say its nice i'll gets it |
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«ÐoлLTsknnr
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| 23 Jan 2008 04:56 PM |
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problem #1: Stop being a nub that uses IE. Download Mozilla Firefox get it HERE CLICK CLICK Check your video drivers sounds like they aren't happy. Make sure your video card is getting enough juice from your powersupply. Make sure that your CPU is getting enough juice and that you aren't suffering from VDROOP while the CPU is under load. |
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«ÐoлTurismon
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| 23 Jan 2008 04:59 PM |
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....I can't stand people that act like using IE is noob. WTF do you get that idea, what bandwagon you following to have the know to say that? Sorry but I will never use firefox, it's slower than IE and doesn't render correctly on alot of things. I'll pass. Sure it's a nice browser , but I will never use it over IE. Unless they totally just fuck IE, but as of now 7 does just fine, and 8 is around the corner and looks really nice. |
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«ÐoлTurismon
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| 23 Jan 2008 05:02 PM |
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ok, i'll give firefox it's props prior to IE7 release, but now that 7 has been out, firefox can't hold a candle to my decision. |
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«ÐoлError13
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| 23 Jan 2008 05:22 PM |
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First off, calm down girls. Since I'm assuming neither of you own stock in, or helped develop said internet browsers, don't be fanboi's of them...although I do prefer IE myself. Of course, I know how to use the internet, so I don't need the short bus that is Firefox. lolz, had to say something.
Global: Vista is as stable as stable is going to be until SP1 is out. I find that my OS doesn't crash very often in general, but I've noticed that Vista can be strange. I'm also running Home Premium, so we're running different versions of VISTA. I personally get some weird graphics defects in WoW, but other games I'm fine. Think it's WoW and DX10.
About IE7 not working, make sure you aren't already infected with viruses and spyware. Go to Trendmicro.com and run a free scan. Might take an hour, so just run it before you go to sleep, or are at work or something.
Also, make sure all of the Vista Updates are installed on your comp.
Try to get all the video codecs, flash player, etc, that runs without you knowing wtf is going on. Infrastructure stuff like video codecs, flash, acrobat, etc, will help IE not crash while trying to load something you don't have installed.
Check your IE7 Settings, along with Security Settings, to make sure you haven't given IE7/VISTA permission to do something that it's unable to do b/c of disabled settings. Personally, I've used the blackviper settings to tweak VISTA and it runs stable, using less RAM, and has not caused any problems. I recommend anyone running a Windows OS to use blackviper settings. If you don't know wtf you are doing, start with the first stage of settings that are safe, and leave most things on.
I'm running Home Premium myself, so there might be some differences there, but otherwise VISTA is stable, if not just a little buggy. How often are you crashing...and what causes the crashes, that you can tell, when they happen?
Oh, and try putting your CPU back to default speed/voltage and see if that helps.
I know buying a CPU you can electrocute to barely beat a cheaper one is awesome leetness and whatnot, but Overclocking doesn't just tax whatever it is you are oc'ing...
It taxes your entire system...Ram, Video Card, OS, Programs...everything.
If you can figure out how to make your computer crash like it has been, then start tweaking settings to see if you can change something to make it stop. |
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«ÐoлTurismon
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| 23 Jan 2008 05:25 PM |
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yeah, i came off a little bitchy, didn't mean too fingers went faster than thoughts. Both browsers are fine, but I've used Firefox and it uses more ram and loads slower, and is no benifit that IE7 can't do so I prefer 7 over it.
Definatley if you are overclocking that might be causing your issues possibly. I would try the SP thou too, I've been running it over a month or 2 and have no issues. If anything it fixes hanging and explorer crashes. Also I think one big problem people have with vista is that stupid User account control. If you have that on, turn it off. that causes 95% of vista's issues alone and they should of only made it an option to turn on not on by default. |
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«ÐoлMongolin
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| 24 Jan 2008 12:21 PM |
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The only difference I have really found between the two that mattered was that if you click key logger links Firefox will block them. If your like me and will click any link I see Firefox is better. IE was fine when I used it. And I don't know mabye they added that to IE now. Anyways it dosn't really matter |
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«ÐoлLTsknnr
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| 24 Jan 2008 12:37 PM |
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Its the little things in firefox that I like. Its easier to tweak firefox settings so that it runs the way YOU want it to. It loads up a half second quicker than IE, I have no trouble with it rendering pages, I can grab protected photos (when you right click and there is no "save" option), and even download video that is streaming that has no download link (thanks to some nifty firefox addons), and I can even control itunes (or winamp, or windows media player, or a multitude of other mp3 players) from inside the browser thanks to another add-on that sits on my bottom bar.
The only time I use IE is when I want to watch a movie on Netflix's instant watch page because their website is the only one that doesn't support firefox. Alas, firefox is more secure because most people still use IE7 so when people write keyloggers, phish scams, and bad code; they write it for IE7. Also, the pop up blocker on firefox is much more user friendly. |
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«ÐoлGlobalReach
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| 24 Jan 2008 02:38 PM |
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ty all, to error, i oced for a day or two just to test it, turned everything back down, and doulble checked the bios, i've got all the codec and blahsie blahs for vids and stuff, divx flash adobe, i just know its an error with my security settings, i'll have to check out the black viper, sounds very nice, i'm just praying for sp1 otherwise i suppose, unless i can become a vista master in a matter of days, i just became fully comfortable w/xp months ago so i doubt this, ronin used remote access and fixed some issues, but anything that loops into ie7 will sometimes just freeze, (avg updater, adaware updater, adobe updater, and the internet itself will just stop, even on the google home page, and the same goes for firefox, i think vista loops many of the same proccesses w/firefox as w/ie7, the security and monitoring dealies, ohhhh windows |
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«ÐoлTurismon
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| 24 Jan 2008 03:22 PM |
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thats your problem, you got all that adware shit and adobe this and that, and all that other BS on your system, you wonder what is breaking it?  also SP1 fixes alot of the hang ups that people tend to get impatient about and start clicking windows and it says not responing so they close them. |
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«ÐoлGlobalReach
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| 24 Jan 2008 03:57 PM |
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my xp sys ran fine w/o any failures for about 3 yrs w/avg free and adaware, i hope thats not the case, thats how i keeps my shit safe, but i took the time to reconfigure my shits so they dont ever do any update, or checks on their own, solved a lot of the issues, especially w/start up, but all the programs that tie into ie have failures that dont report, now i have ie set to report more in depth, and thats helped, i'm just in for another couple years of tweaking, then they'll hvae qyantum windows, and i'll be fucked again |
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ABS 800watt psu
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«ÐoлTurismon
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| 24 Jan 2008 03:59 PM |
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if they haven't updated their software to work right with vista then ya, that would be the problem. |
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«ÐoлSlick
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| 25 Jan 2008 08:28 AM |
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fuck IE7 and Firefox, use OPERA!
....also uhhh i totally just bought a mac and now i'm totally lag and hang-free my OS Never crashes cause it's been kosher blessed by steve jobs himself. it give it a +17 anti gayness ward.
just kidding, UBUNTU FTW!
ok now that i'm done causing rukus, sucks that yo shit is broke global, personally i wouldn't have even thought about overclocking for at least a year, until you can *almost* tangibly taste your the sortware getting ahead of your hardware. but that probably won't even happen for several years anyway...
if you honestly think that you've done everything right and proper and nothing works, i'd do a proper format, then dissaemble the entire system, take a look at all your connectors or each componant with a magnifying glass, make sure that everything is in proper order and properly clean!, then put everything back and take it slow, don't pile on all the updated drivers at once, give your box time to breathe, get it stable and then i'd only update one thing per day so you can isolate what change made it unstable.
priority one is just getting everything nice and stable. and since you've seemingly piled everything on at once, you can't tell exactly where the problem is coming from, or what's conflicting with what. so take it slow, you'll have her for a while yet, buy her dinner, take her to a movie, the bitch wants to be romanced!
oh and black viper is good, but you should be comfortable toying with your services to apply any of the "gamer" settings for instance, as the viper is pretty aggressive with those particular settings. again, this is a fast way to make way too many changes at once and then you can't burn CDs for some reason and you don't know what you did to fuck it. service toying should only be done when you want to tweak OS performance, not stability. |
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| 25 Jan 2008 12:04 PM |
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i mean its not broken, it works fine, and as i said everything has been set back to standard settings, prolly needs a little more tweaking, but the hardware is stable, and all the drivers are up to date...ALL OF THEM, audio chipset cpu gpu codecs LAN USB...but always runs into the same error w/ie7, i've stopped doing things on the internet and update scarcely and all at once upon start up w/my vista box, and i'll use my xp box for the forums and stuff, so i guess its no big deal, but it just sux sometimes |
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2x2gb OCZ Reaper pc6400
ABS 800watt psu
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| 25 Jan 2008 12:09 PM |
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Posted By «ÐoлTurismon on 01/24/2008 3:59 PM
if they haven't updated their software to work right with vista then ya, that would be the problem. divx and other internet related codecs, or my anti virus, or both, my thing now is do all the bs on the xp sys and pwn the vista...ehh?? |
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Zalman 110mm cpu fan
Sapphire 3870HD 512mb 775mhz
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Vista Ultimate 32bit
2x2gb OCZ Reaper pc6400
ABS 800watt psu
Baller Juice(Jet fuel)
A moniter i found in the trash
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«ÐoлTurismon
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| 25 Jan 2008 12:11 PM |
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antivirus is what usually causes problems with vista, if you haven't gotten a super new version and trying to use your original copy that is more than likley your issues, normal stuff like codec's etc won't do anything to vista. They had a big deal when vista came out that no antivirus software worked right on it. |
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