«ÐoлLTsknnr [Moderator]
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| 12 Apr 2010 08:11 PM |
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Ok, so I know Turis has a setup similar to mine. How much of a difference should I expect by dropping my e8600 dual core for a shiny new q9550? Also the bitch is starting to heat up and crash a couple times a day (I think it was from all that massive overclocking I did a few years ago on it-its all back to stock now).
Also i'm still running ye old 8800GTS 640 for the video card, I know that its quite dated now by video card standards.
Who wants to give me a recommendation for a new vid card in the $200 range or less?
Is this path worth it to keep me afloat for the next few years or should I say fuck it and just keep riding the crap out of this rig til it pukes its guts out all over my floor? |
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«ÐoлTurismon [Administrator]
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| 12 Apr 2010 08:44 PM |
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you basically have Unidus's rig and he runs the game fine. However him and I both overclock to 3.6ghz and that gives a pretty nice boost. it's roughly 1-2 fps per 100mhz overclock for me, and then probably another 5-10 overall higher for a better core than unidus so if you get a q9550 and can overclock to 3.6 like me you probably will get minimum 15-20fps more. Hard to tell without a real benchmark setup for this game thou. Again just depends on what you want to do with the game. Youc an run on mostly low just fine with that fig and it's really not that much lesser looking than medium so just depends. If I upped to a ati 5750 for 170 bucks I coudl run everything pretty much max less some AA etc. |
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"I think I am going to play the match using my balls to control my keyboard. Maybe it will at least give you a chance to kill me. " -Unidus
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«ÐoлLTsknnr [Moderator]
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| 12 Apr 2010 09:39 PM |
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Yeah, I the highest I can go with my 680i mobo is a q6850 so thats what i'm doing. it will at least keep me going for a few more years and I wont have to worry about crashing out of game every 2 hours. |
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«ÐoлTurismon [Administrator]
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| 12 Apr 2010 09:42 PM |
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Personally I wouldn't run out and waste the money just yet, your not going to get much of a performance jump with that proc. I would check and make sure it's your proc even doing it first. Run Prime 95 for a long time and see if there are any errors. It could be your RAM or OS or even Vid card doing it and buying a new proc might not fix your issue. If anything buy the cheaper q6600 and overclock it. I bet that q6850 still costs an arm and leg. But I would make certain it's nothing else first. |
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"I think I am going to play the match using my balls to control my keyboard. Maybe it will at least give you a chance to kill me. " -Unidus
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«ÐoлError13 [Administrator]
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| 12 Apr 2010 09:54 PM |
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Yes, he will get a performance boost from that proc. I know, since I upgraded my CPU to that processor. And the price for the 6850 is only expensive on ebay and amazon. I got mine for about $250, which is a decent upgrade from what I had. Went from a e6750 @ 2.66 to a q6850 @ 3.0. My frame rate on medium increased by about 20 fps. I haven't even screwed around with overclocking the cpu, my graphics card is already the bottleneck, so it doesn't matter. |
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«ÐoлTurismon [Administrator]
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| 12 Apr 2010 10:07 PM |
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yeah but your graphics card is much better and his current cpu is currently already at the same fsb and actually higher ghz than the q6850. The E8600 is 3.33ghz. so he wouldn't get that jump. he might get a minor increase just by having a quad but not worth it IMO, but if your squeezing it out then sure. I would bet he might get 10fps faster from quad originally seeming faster until their patch but anything else will actually be slower to clock unless it uses full quad core.
So essisially he's losing 333mhz (6-7fps alone) than what he has now. Being with the graphics card he has I wouldn't do it. If he had a 9800 like you have then it might be a little to look at as it would push that card better in conjunction.
basically you went from 2.6ghz 1066fsb to 3ghz 1333 fsb with a 9800 card which will give you that boost.
Going from 3.33ghz 1333fsb to 3ghz 1333 fsb with 8800 card won't be near as good and will only benifit a little in BC2 because it works just a touch better with quads for some reason than duals, specially since that dual core patch that they released. |
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"I think I am going to play the match using my balls to control my keyboard. Maybe it will at least give you a chance to kill me. " -Unidus
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«ÐoлError13 [Administrator]
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| 12 Apr 2010 11:06 PM |
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i have a 8800 gts also.
on low settings, i was getting about 30 frames with my dual core.
on medium, i'm getting a solid 45 frames with the quad core.
a .3 ghz increase didn't cause all of that frame rate increase.
know anyone else who has upgraded a dual core to a quad core besides me who might agree that the game runs better on a quad?
and sknnr can always overclock the shit out of the cpu if he wants, without touching the fsb.it has an unlocked multiplier.
if he just bumps the multiplier to 9.5 from 9 and ups the fsb by 14, he's running at 3.3 ghz without having to really overclock anything. if he bumped his multiplier to 10 and left the fsb alone altogether, he'd be at 3.3 ghz.
for the amount of money he's spending and i've spent, its a good deal. it will last at least a year, if not longer, before anything taxes my cpu, and with the quad, he's not instantly bottlenecked because its running with half the cores its designed to use.
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«ÐoлTurismon [Administrator]
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| 12 Apr 2010 11:15 PM |
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well you went from 1066fsb to 1333 that helps too. I'm not saying it wont' help but it's not like OMG huge difference. Unidus can attest he has a dual running the same speed as mine. Mine has 12MB of cache maybe those extremes do have more cache I guess your right I thought those things still cost over 500 bucks so meh. But for 250 I guess it's not bad, not saying he won't get a jump in performance but he might actually get more from upgrading the graphics card to a 5750 vs the new proc. But again if he's having cpu problems and he knows for a fact it's that then I would go with a new CPU. |
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"I think I am going to play the match using my balls to control my keyboard. Maybe it will at least give you a chance to kill me. " -Unidus
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«ÐoлError13 [Administrator]
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| 12 Apr 2010 11:17 PM |
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uh, no.
i was at 1333mhz the whole time.
dude, seriously, i think i know if i have better performance with a quad core.
it's definitely omg huge difference. |
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«ÐoлTurismon [Administrator]
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| 12 Apr 2010 11:21 PM |
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Well I remember the difference too but that was pre dual core fix patch. I'm going off Unidus sitting and benchmarking his fps vs mine in the same spots so I just go off what he says compared to playing on my system verses his, he says it's faster than his but not a whole lot again it's a newer proc, core, cache etc. But that Extreme edition might be pretty much the same over the standard quads that were out when it came out. Again not saying it's not going to imporove, but I almost think a 5750 would net more gain than the proc. Maybe just suck it up and get both and you'll be good to go  . |
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"I think I am going to play the match using my balls to control my keyboard. Maybe it will at least give you a chance to kill me. " -Unidus
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«ÐoлLTsknnr [Moderator]
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| 13 Apr 2010 11:13 PM |
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and i have an e6600 my mistake. I have dyslexia these days from all this fucking reading. But yeah, the CPU is the issue, the video card and mobo are good, the memory may have issues but that's fine its cheap to upgrade to new modules anyways (I only have 2GB so it wouldn't hurt to make it 4GB). For $300 shipped after tax its an upgrade that is nothing to sneeze at and should serve me well for the next year or two. Also its the extreme edition chip so I can unlock the multiplier and BAM instant overclock if I choose to. |
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«ÐoлLTsknnr [Moderator]
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| 13 Apr 2010 11:15 PM |
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My birthday is coming up Turis, and you missed the last 3, why don't you just go ahead and mail me one of those new ATi cards and I'll let you know how it goes ;-) |
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«ÐoлTurismon [Administrator]
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| 13 Apr 2010 11:52 PM |
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well if you have an e6600 then yeah you would get a huge jump over what you have now. |
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"I think I am going to play the match using my balls to control my keyboard. Maybe it will at least give you a chance to kill me. " -Unidus
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«ÐoлUnidus [Administrator]
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| 14 Apr 2010 12:14 AM |
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Get the proc. I run e8400 dual core with a 8800GT and can run on all high in the 30-50s if I wanted to. 8800s are still good enough to run this game on decent FPS as long as you have a good proc. |
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