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| 08 Dec 2010 03:24 PM |
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I was trying to figure out how to get audacity to record my speaker/soundcard inputs, and failed, but along the way i stumbled upon this feature in windows 7 (and probably vista). Goto your volume options in control panel, or simply click on the little speaker in the taskbar at the bottom right, and then goto communications.
There should be some automatically chosen feature selected "When Windows detects communications activity" *"Reduce the volume of other sounds by 80%."
I selected *"Do nothing" instead :P
It's a problem that is super annoying so PLZ take 10 seconds to change this regardless of whether or not you think you suck.
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«ÐoлTurismon [Administrator]
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| 08 Dec 2010 03:27 PM |
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It's for your speakers so that your volume turns down when a phone call comes in to live messenger or skype etc that are programmed on that stack, nothing more. whats this have to do with anything else? Vent doesn't use that stack :p. |
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GlobalReach [Moderator]
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| 08 Dec 2010 08:11 PM |
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i have no idea what it does, what i do know is that a lot of people with windows 7, my brother and i think ur brother included, have mics that get INSANELY low when they get ingame, or INSANELY loud, i figure theres a million reasons this could be happening, this seems as though it may be one of those. |
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GlobalReach [Moderator]
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| 08 Dec 2010 08:13 PM |
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BTW we needs to get rid of lots of those ridiculously stupid lol maps :P |
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«ÐoлSlick [Moderator]
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| 09 Dec 2010 11:58 AM |
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yeah, turis is right, you can set "default comm device" in your windows sound recorder setting "selecting your mic" but it only has to do with programs that make use of it like skype etc. vent doesn't. it you are having problems with having people really loud or quiet, depending on what program *you're* using at the time (playing battlefield etc) then it's most definately on your end. i suggest using unidus's compression trick in vent to normalize people's voices: http://www.thedodclan.org/Forum/tab...fault.aspx |
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«ÐoлTurismon [Administrator]
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| 09 Dec 2010 11:59 AM |
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You do realize when Unidus goes in game his Rage meter goes up along with his volume right? lol. |
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«ÐoлSlick [Moderator]
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| 09 Dec 2010 12:09 PM |
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and for the record, this "reduce other sounds by %80" that you found, is called "audio ducking". or in the Tv industry, "audio dipping". all it's doing is as turis pointed out, making everything elser quiter whenever there's a vocal track, so that you can hear dialogue clearly. it has no actualy effect on the decibel range of the person talking, as that's entirely set up by whatever program you're using to hear them through, vent skype etc. all this feature is doing is "ducking" all of the other audio sources "video games, music, etc" so that they all get really quiet. This is all in windows own internal mixer. if you click on the windows speak tab in the lower right hand corner once, then click "mixer". you'll see all the different audio feeds that windows is recognizing. you'll also notice, that ventrilo and battlefield are NOT one of them. (try with vent open, and then with vent closed to see what i mean). what this means is that vent and battlefield are all apart of the "applications" sub mixer bus. which means that they're already being all pre-mixed together, there's no way to seperate them. skype on the other hand, will appear as it's own "sub mixer bus" which you can fiddle with independantly from the rest of your applications. this is why "audio ducking" will work with skype. hope that this has helped clear things up a bit. |
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GlobalReach [Moderator]
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| 09 Dec 2010 01:36 PM |
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BLAH BLAH BLAH OMFG :P are you two collaborating to write a book about this topic? are you two both 100% sure, given the intricate workings of the modern day computer, that such an option may or may not have an effect on audio drivers and or ventrillo and or battlefield ingame sound bullshit. doubtful.
either way, i know one thing, when certain people start certain games they either get really low or really loud, and that seems quite unlikely to be on my end :P granted this vent equalization thing you mention sounds like a good option 'for me', the problem itself has not originated 'from me'. i merely happened upon an option that seemed to be selected automatically because windows is stupid.
slick get a new mic |
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«ÐoлTurismon [Administrator]
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| 09 Dec 2010 01:45 PM |
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"are you two both 100% sure, given the intricate workings of the modern day computer," I do this shit everyday for the past 12 years, I think I might know a thing or 2 about the modern day computer  . |
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«ÐoлSlick [Moderator]
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| 09 Dec 2010 04:16 PM |
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what's a computer? the only way to normalize what you hear is to compress your input signal. then nothing will ever get louder than what threshold you set it to. no matter what other people are sending out. they could be 5 feet away from their mic, or eating it, people's outbound signal stregnth will always fluxtuate. people can try their best to send out a "normal" signal, but you can never please everyone. at the end of the day, it's up to you on your end to make it all equal to your ears. also, you had a shitty mic for like 8 months and hardly anyone complained  |
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«ÐoлUnidus [Administrator]
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| 09 Dec 2010 07:11 PM |
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Posted By GlobalReach on 08 Dec 2010 09:11 PM
i have no idea what it does, what i do know is that a lot of people with windows 7, my brother and i think ur brother included, have mics that get INSANELY low when they get ingame, or INSANELY loud, i figure theres a million reasons this could be happening, this seems as though it may be one of those.
Has nothing to do with windows. Sometimes my mic is down in front of my mouth and other times I have it up near the top because I forget to lower it after Im done eating. It also depends on how high my volume is set. If its loud I might talk louder since I cant hear myself and at night I talk lower to not wake up people. It also depends if im pissed like Turismon mentioned.
I have no sound lowering going on in any programs I use caused by windows.
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GlobalReach [Moderator]
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| 11 Dec 2010 04:17 PM |
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everyone complained :P plus it went bad 8 months before i got a new one, but it kept on getting better, and then worse again, so i was holding about hope. but wow, you guys, and stuff, wow |
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GlobalReach [Moderator]
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| 11 Dec 2010 04:20 PM |
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and for the record, there is a problem that bad company causes, and it causes peoples mics to lower quite a bit, my brother and i confirmed this, and then he fucked with audio settings for a while until it stopped. |
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«ÐoлSlick [Moderator]
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| 11 Dec 2010 05:24 PM |
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what settings? i've never had a game lower people's mics. unless the game is reaching through the internet and physically turning a knob where it's turning somone's outbound down, then it's not their mics getting lower, it's just that the game volume is too loud, and windows is trying to mix the two together, so one is perceived as being quieter than the other. isn't the solution just to turn down the volume in the game? personally i have my BC2 master at like 20%, then i just bring up the master windows volume to bring everything up together. voila! |
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GlobalReach [Moderator]
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| 13 Dec 2010 11:31 AM |
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not sure what settings he messed with, tbh it might have just fixed itself as cheese messed with ingame settings, all we know is bc2 made cheese's mic about 10% of what it was without it, barely audible, unidus' game used to do the same thing, until it stopped magically too, unless uni fucked with anything |
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«ÐoлSlick [Moderator]
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| 13 Dec 2010 02:49 PM |
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oh shit i forgot to tell you, you should stay away from the brown acid, it makes you hear things! (or not hear them) |
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«ÐoлCheesieCharlie [Moderator]
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| 14 Dec 2010 02:17 PM |
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I thought it made you see sounds. And something useful The compressor in ventrillo sucks dick! It seems to elevate quite background noises to super annoyingly loud levels and it also distorts everyones voice, its a sure way to get a headache in 2 minutes. Just adjust everyone individually... |
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«ÐoлSlick [Moderator]
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| 14 Dec 2010 04:57 PM |
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you gotta play with the threshold if it's elevating background noises. also means that your base volume is too high, so you should bring that down. all a compressor does is limit how loud something can go, so you usually set it by saying "boost signal +6db" and "limit at 12db" it will sound like ass and distort if you're pushing your gain too high, which would explain the clipping "distortion" and the elevated background sounds. here lemme check what the actual control is called in vent... yeah, it's called "gain" aka "volume" to the laydork. the more you know. |
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«ÐoлUnidus [Administrator]
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| 20 Dec 2010 12:11 PM |
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Well apparently it does work for some people I didn't have anything change when I tried it but apparently it can glitch out for some people when it shouldn't. Read this somewhere:
"It's a feature of Windows 7, when playing Team Fortress 2 Windows 7 lowers all other sounds in the background like Ventrilo, Windows Media Player, iTunes, etc. This shouldn't be happening as it's only intended for Phone Calls but on some systems it registers peoples voices within TF2 as a phone call and reduces the sound volume in the background to 20% of it's normal volume."
So apparently if you have VOIP enabled in some games Windows can glitch and lower it when it shouldn't be doing it at all. I tested it with vent and it doesn't do any difference but might as well just turn it off unless you use that setting. I guess it could happen for some people in BC2 if you have VOIP enabled.
Locking the topic since I don't want to have to delete fucking posts again but both sides of this thread had a valid point. It shouldn't have any affect but apparently some programs glitch it out. |
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«ÐoлSlick [Moderator]
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| 20 Dec 2010 01:29 PM |
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don't worry, i'll be good. i didn't think of that unidus, but it does make sense come to think of it. i know that voip packets are pretty easy to identify regardless of what program they're coming through, so it's not inconceivable that windows might recognize a voip signal embedded in any number of applications. And then if the audio ducking is enabled, it would indeed lower all other apps to very low levels. maybe that's why it only appeared to happen sometimes, or to only some people, as it was coincidence that there was some incoming voip feed in-game that was glitching it out at the time? i used to have a program that could sniff voip packets on any LAN, fun for listening to roomate's skype calls etc. but it could easily find voip from any program, few guys played counterstrike, and i could always see their ingame voip going nuts. so yeah, if some shitty ass LAN hack program can see voip loud and clear, windows can probably see it all too. best bet is to probably turn that feature off and see if it makes a difference. And for the record, i've definately heard unidus become a little bit loud, then a little bit quiet, but if he's at a different distance from his mic, talking quiet at night etc. that would explain it. don't matter cause compression covers it. but i've never heard cheese get quiet, he's always come through at a consistant signal. |
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