CoD has been a dogshit franchise since CoD 4. Shouldn't be a surprise that people are tired of spending $60 for an expansion of the same god damn corner shooter every year.

And by dogshit, I mean to say that I literally wouldn't play that terrible, terrible piece of shit even for free.

It's not that bad. I had the same judgement on Black Ops as you did but I enjoy fucking off with it from time to time, but I play on PS3, probably why it's decent there, on PC I could see it being too crazy and annoying, but with the slower pace of console it slows it down enough to where it's actually decent. BC2 on PS3 = gay fucking lame sauce.

that's just what you get when you design a level for 6v6, and then on PC they ram 24 people in a server. and then it's just nades nades nades c4, semtex, and moar nades.

and just to be the devils advocate here, error, you say you wouldn't pay a dime for that game, but would you pay a dime for the "next" counterstrike?

and for the record, i've been playing MW2 more than blackops lately, cause the dedicated servers are just fucked in blackops. 1 in 20 servers is vanilla, the rest have stupid gay ass rules set to them, it's a reflection of the lame ass community that game has (10,000 crouch only servers HA!)

but love it or hate it, MW2 had P2P matchmaking just like consoles, which sucked for lag when you got hosted by some nigger from mexico or whatever. BUT! you did get to play the game that infinityward designed. you got the true experience of their game, cause all there was was vanilla servers.

to me it's like making a movie, and then instead of just releasing the version that the director, producers, and $100 million of money cost to make, they give it up to a fucking test-audience room full of yahoos, and they add "crouch-only". fuck that shit. i just wanted to play some good ol TDM COD, and in blops it was fucking near impossible, also 24 people in a map the size of a broomcloset isn't fun. 6v6 the way the game was intended in MW2 is alot better imo.

that's why you gotta respect DICE for keeping their game the way they like, cause it's a good fucking game. even though they're talking about maybe putting out mod tools in the future (recent news). still no confirm. i wanna play battlefield the way it is, i don't wanna play stupid bullshit where if i use a certain gun i'm kicked from the server. that shit should be outlawed IMO unless it's on an unranked server.

unranked = do whatever the fuck you want with your server

ranked = you play by the same rules as everyone else.

if stats are being tracked, then it's only fair that they're tracked evenly across every ranked game. it's not rocket science.

exactly why I think the PS3 version is actually pretty decent is because it's all vanilla all the time pretty much. If I could do one thing it would be double the points on a server needed to end a round. You get going and kicking ass on a round and the round ends. My only complaint.

oh yeah i remember that, 750 point rounds or whatever, means like 12 kills per person and the round ends. that was bullshit.

i played blops on a 360 yesterday, in passive 3D, it was pretty awsome actually, played zombies.

they have this million dollar store they just opened up for people to try the xbox360, kinect, etc stuff like that, pure promo, aboot a 4 minute walk from my house. i was doing some scouting there for ideas on my 1337 gaming cafe idea i wanna open up. it actually played well on the 360, like really really well, and in 3D too. i totally underestimated that shit on consoles. played better than some computers built in the last couple years too. pretty retarded.

i really wish someone would build a "battle box" just for like 3 top FPS games, and the box would be the same across all platforms, and maybe updated once every 2 years. and the devs could just code directly to the box and get 10x crazy performance instead of having to deal with directx API bullshit.

everygame could be 120 FPS no problem, full 3D, all settings maxed. and it would just be a standard, no one would have to worry about this or that componant to their computer. obviously still a rudimentary OS that could handle mouse/keyboard natively, but also gamepads if people wanted, that's just bluetooth.

yeah, even scalled down textures and shit your running at a 1980x1050 res or whatever 1080p is on PS3 and still get nice framerates. But xbox360 still uses directx i guarentee it and they do just fine. PC just needs to go back to using OpenGL and be done with it. It wasns't as all feature rich but it still looked damn good, ran games across the board on all cards good and IMO is what went wrong with PC games. That and of course cross console games. Even with BF3 they still trying to put it on consoles, so I guarentee they had consoles in mind when building the engine holding shit back. Either way there is a number of things. So hate it or not, they just need mouse and keyboard support on BF3 for PS3 and sign me up, fuck it, it will look almost as good and run the same on everyones machines I'll take it, but you can't leve out mouse/keyboard/chat support it just makes it not as good.

well i think that the rez on consoles is upscales from 720p roughly, some are actually less, think blops is like 560p. i did a buncha reading on it when it came out in xbox vs ps3 reviews.

see i don't think that xbox uses directx at all, there's no need for it as everything can just be coded directly to copper or whatever it's called.

also, i don't buy the argument that anyone "held back" on features for BC2 or BF3. i think that's complete bullmash because i had a fucking PRO top of the line computer for BC2, and i couldn't play with perfect frames, with everything maxed, shit i still play BC2 on low to get 80-90 fps.

until the *top of the line* hardware can support 80-90fps with all settings cranked, then they're definately not holding anything back, it's the hardware not being capable enough. (or the API being too shitty cause it has to support 5 bazillion different permutations of PC components and get working in all of them)

i mean, i'm SURE that there's extra effects in frostbite that they could enable, don't get me wrong, i fully understand that. but then you'll have a Crysis videogame which is almost 4 years old and people STILL CAN'T PLAY ON MAX SETTINGS even on a 2000$ PC without turning into a sideshow. i was just reading a crysis review today actually, to show how much improvement the ATI drivers have "unlocked" in the 3+ years. and they STILL use the medium settings for the review cause it's pointless to review playability when it's a slideshow.

That statement is pretty much full of fail . BC2 SHOULD run good on our hardware we have, no reason it shouldn't. It runs like shit becuase they dumb it down to more CPU (console) based instructions. That's why CPU makes such a big difference in FPS on BC2 etc. Telling you, the way they code games is not optimized for PC instrucitons. Just because your hardware can't handle it doesn't mean it's so leet that it was made for better hardware on a PC. It's just lazy programming and not optimized for PC only, they use whats "compatible" to make it work across the board which isn't the most efficient use of the processing given. Maybe Frostbite 2 is different in that aspect where they optimize for PC and cut down and make it work for consoles, but for BC2 you can tell it was console first, make PC work later development cycle.

yeah, i see what you're getting at. there's probably a bit of that going on. i just honestly think that the bulk of why the coding seems to fail on PCs is just the shitty API. i mean they have to code for ps3 which is a fucking nightmare for devs, and they can still make that shit shine. all of these programs are built on PCs, and they all shine.

Crysis was PC-ONLY and it still runs like a heap of garbage years later because they threw in everything and the cat into that game.

who knows, i mean i was getting about the same performance from BF3 alpha as i was BC2. honestly i think that they just had way too much destruction in BC2, that it killed the CPUs. in BF3 the destruction is crazy, but it's only in certain spots, you can't demolish an entire village into a pile of rubble, that's a bit overkill, and changes the way the levels are designed. BF3 is more inline with any other shooter like CS where the level will always play like that level even if a window gets RPGed out.

i think that this is why BF3 looked better, but played at the same framerates, could be cause it's more of a PC-centric release, but also i think it's cause they don't have all the destruction from BC2, so they can use that extra horsepower overhead for better things.

say what you will about BC2, it's definately the most resource-intensive PC FPS game i've ever played. i'm surprized anyone can play that thing without their computers exploding.

i think i'd rather have sex with my own bleeding fist than play a CoD game.

think i just found my new sig

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i think globals new sig should be:

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lololololol, how u so funny cheese, u need to not have mic more often, u way more funny when u not on vent, now dont come back, ever, also, checkem \/ \/ \/

i think the next person to start a thread that stays on topic past the first page gets a cookie.

btw feel free to quote that.

I wouldn't be surprised if cheese has posted this already, seeing as it's 2 years old. i guess I'd be more surprised if i could remember anything from last week.

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